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Adorama: Red-ish? Yaohua Zheng apr 09, 2006; 09:26 p.m.

It’s the second time I got a batch of Adorama-prints what looked red- ish. I locked the most obvious parts, read the values from the convert-to-Adorama-profiled versions, and ended up finding, for example, a [193,191,204]cloud against bright watered-blue sky looked aglow in the print.

I don’t think it’s a story about so-called visual effect, because of the last frustration of my prints from Adorama. Several months ago I placed two separated orders with the same images and got two different batchs of prints, one’s OK while another’s red-ish. People could tell the lean toward red without experienced eye.

Something’s wrong, but don’t konw what and where it is, at my end or Adorama’s in the chain of process. (BTW, The equipment, the method and the flow have never been changed since the very first time I dealt with AdoramaPix.)

Still, I’ve been having my prints done in Adorama. Most of their work were perfect and even gave me more confidence in the adjustment by myself. What I’m not sure is, when the assignment has no room for time or quality, if I will consign my images to Adorama’s print.

Emre Safak apr 12, 2006; 10:05 p.m.
I found my recent lustre prints to be warm too. I even recalibrated my monitor just to be sure. Glad to know I am not alone!

Yaohua Zheng apr 13, 2006; 12:25 a.m.
BUT, Dear Emre, I got the new batch of my prints from Adorama, it’s back to NORMAL! That’s why I think of it is a problem.

Speaking of Lustre’s warm, I’d like to share something with you. I made a color chart in Adobe RGB space, converted it to Adorama_Lustre, Adorama_Glossy respectively, without any intervening, and got the values from the neutral grey rank:

A) Adobe [217,217,217] = Lustre [224,219,218] = Glossy [223,219,221]
B) Adobe [182,182,182] = Lustre [185,178,180] = Glossy [183,178,182]
C) Adobe [128,128,128] = Lustre [126,120,122] = Glossy [125,119,123]
D) Adobe [76,76,76] = Lustre [71,66,67] = Glossy [68,64,67]
E) Adobe [0,0,0] = Lustre [21,0,21] = Glossy [5,2,2]

Not sure if the values are meaning for you. What important is, then I printed the Adorama_Lustre version of the chart in AdoramaPix and received a NORMAL print in which the neutral grey kept its colorlessness, no tincture of red.

It is that Adorama printed some of my photos red-ish at times.

Emre Safak , apr 13, 2006; 01:54 p.m.
I have three explanations:

1. I made an error. I think this is unlikely as I recently calibrated my monitor (in total darkness), and inspected the prints under daylight.
2. The profiles are outdated. Indeed, DryCreekPhoto specifies the paper Adorama uses as Kodak Royal across the board, when in fact they use Kodak Endura for lustre. Of course, this might simply be a typo.
3. The instruction not to color correct the images is being ignored.

I would ask technical support but they are on an extended vacation.

Yaohua Zheng , apr 15, 2006; 12:18 a.m.
I doubt them all.

1. I viewed the red-ish prints under various lights and they kept red-ish.
2. The profiles I used were downloaded from Adorama. My first batch of red-ish prints was on the glossy paper.
3. The NNNN could be detected on every red-ish print’s back.

Hope you finally talk the matter over with Adorama and share the secret here. (Which my English is not good enough to do)

如果犹太假期之后他真去问了，不知Adorama有什么说法。

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Me, Pizzeria, 42nd Street, Manhattan © zeyez

三年前拍的这张照片。三年后前几天，才发现这家披萨店就在公司后面；而且最近去过好几次，最后一次才发现。照片上的日期是误按出来的。当时有好几卷都打上了胡说的日期，一起冲出来才知道。有些容易擦，有些像这张，不知怎么擦了。

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Times Square, the eve of the war, 2003 © zeyez

Hi mynona, here’s another alone person, even among the stream of remonstrators in Times Square. This is the most important one, may the best one of protesting photos I took.

又写英文啦。